Push button start and shutdown

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:27 pm

Good point about needing different input pins for the different functions and the different behaviour for each. That's not a problem (other than more code but that's not a big deal). And I agree that using the TinyIOx or IOx for a single trivial use is not cost-effective.

But simply needing 3 inputs (and an output for the starter) might be starting to make having an additional board a necessity for some. And then there's the fact the functions are not available on either MS2/Extra and MS3. So that might still be a nice solution for some and there are quite a few additional features and I/Os available.

So Ill keep that in mind for the next firmware version. If you have ideas for other features that would make a bike (or car) installation easier or safer, let me know.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby dontz125 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:45 pm

The push on/off is a luxury, and something that can stay in an add-on board. The tip-over switch is very important to any EFI bike, and should be included in the actual MS code. The kill switch is equally vital, but the ability to kill the fuel and spark while leaving the ECU on is more of a 'nice to have'.

Personally, I'd rather see the KS function in the ECU, but honesty compels me to note that I currently sell a tip-over switch + timer module that interrupts the FP output, and I am interested in a KS function so I don't need to fiddle with it on my main boards! :lol:
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:57 pm

I knew you had the tip-over switch. But not having the extra relay would be a nice option.

As for having the KS function in the ECU, you can make a request on the msextra forum. That has been done before without much results (as you know). On the MS2/Extra side, there are so few I/Os that this is not likely to happen. It could happen on the MS3 though especially since the code will now have some part of the function already done.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby dontz125 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:05 am

No relay, just a mosfet that interrupts the FPR signal from the MS.

Actually, the last time I whined for something, it arrived! (bike shift back-port)
I understand all too well the dire lack of I/O on the MS2, but that's what my budget (personally, and the market I'm shooting for) has to focus on.

The MS3 has so much I/O, it should have EVERY function anyone could ever want!

(whaddaya mean, "Who's gonna code it"?!) :lol:
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:16 am

dontz125 wrote:The MS3 has so much I/O, it should have EVERY function anyone could ever want!

Actually, that might be true for a bike but for an 8+ cylinder engine the number of pins is not that large. A sequential 12-cylinder setup has few spare pins. And even with pins available, there's the question of the type of function each pin can have.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:06 pm

Now in beta 11 we can send stop comand by the CAN! :D
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:10 pm

coizamora wrote:Now in beta 11 we can send stop comand by the CAN! :D

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1304#p6515
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:19 pm

jbelanger wrote:
coizamora wrote:Now in beta 11 we can send stop comand by the CAN! :D

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1304#p6515


Jean
I was very happy with the progress you have achieved along with James, I look forward to the implementation in Tiny IOx
Tks a lot!

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:50 pm

jbelanger wrote:
coizamora wrote:Now in beta 11 we can send stop comand by the CAN! :D

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1304#p6515

Hi Jean
News?
:D
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:03 pm

No news for now. I have been busy on different things.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:12 pm

jbelanger wrote:No news for now. I have been busy on different things.

Jean

I understand.
Tks in advance.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:00 pm

Jean good night
News?
A big hug

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:10 pm

I still haven't been able to do much work on it. But it will be there before the end of the month.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby Stu_D » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:54 pm

Would it be possible to hold the start and stop buttons simultaneously to allow the engine to be cranked on the starter motor without firing up?

This would be useful when you want to build oil pressure on a new install without having to manually disconnect the coils or injectors.
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:10 pm

That is one of the options I want to have for exactly that type of application. Not only can you use this to build up oil pressure but you might want this for checking compression or for checking timing (in this case you only want fuel cut obviously).

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:39 pm

Stu_D wrote:Would it be possible to hold the start and stop buttons simultaneously to allow the engine to be cranked on the starter motor without firing up?

This would be useful when you want to build oil pressure on a new install without having to manually disconnect the coils or injectors.

In this case select "button only" and remove the fuel pump relay!
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:19 pm

Hi Jean
News about firmware release?
Tks

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:34 pm

News?
Tks
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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby jbelanger » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:28 pm

My schedule has been affected a lot by different things and I'm very late with this. Hopefully I will be able to get something out soon.

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Re: Push button start and shutdown

Postby coizamora » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:37 pm

Hi Jean
News about firmware release?
Tks
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